American Conservative Union ratings for all the candidates in 2008
Here is the ACU's list of ratings for everybody in the '08 race.
Disgruntled conservative friends will still find this not enough, though, I know. Just trying to make the case...to the choir for once.
posted by Kip Lange @ 12:01 PM
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11 Comments:
Every day over the last 8 years I've become more convinced McCain is Democrap. I'd rather have a regular one I can blame, not this backstabbing one I can neither blame nor trust.
Have fun dending this jerk. Then be thankful when the Republican party is reborn, the sooner the better.
(Yes somebody reads your blog, hi SP!)
I knew it. I just said it. Even after looking at his voting record, which speaks for itself, you still can't stomach him. Look, I don't like McCain-Feingold any more than you do, nor am I convinced McCain would get the best judges on the Supreme Court. Have trouble defending him? Are you nuts? Have you been paying any attention to what the Democrats are saying?
I'm not in *love* with John McCain, I just think that on the majority, and especially the big-ticket items (national security, taxes, abortion), of issues, McCain is clearly the conservative's choice in this election.
Calling him a Democrat is *insane*. Did you look at the voting record? Go look at it at another site. Go look anywhere. I don't care. Check out his votes on everything. Then come back and tell me how a guy who's got a lifetime rating of 80/100 on conservative issues is "a Democrat", next to Hillary at 9/100 and Obama at 100/00.
Is McCain perfect? No. Is he a much better choice than Obama or Clinton? You gotta be brain-damaged if I have to tell you the answer.
Don't be hatin'. :-)
LOL I typed Obama's rating as "100/100", I think -- sorry -- it's 8/100, according to the ACU. But I urge you to look at the records from *anywhere* on McCain's voting record.
Oh and btw, "Anonymous", on a tangent -- there's a Facebook group for Nuke now, don't know if you noticed or not. Porsche, myself, et al.
One follow-up comment: I think the problem right now is -- and I'm speaking as a conservative -- that there was no really overtly conservative for us to rally behind (and, God, they need to shut up about Reagan -- I love Reagan, I mean, but...give it a rest, guys, you ain't Reagan...).
So, I mean, what do you do? You try to get someone electable (I think we scored second best on that, I think Giuliani would have been more electable), and you want him to be as conservative as you can so you hold his feet to the fire and he ends up at CPAC having to say concrete things about what he would do if elected president. A lot of those comments he made could easily come back to bite him on the ass.
No, problem is, I think that after Bush and the Republican-controlled (formely) Congress that imploded -- us conservatives are basically out of it for 4-8 years. I'm not joking. So you -- I hate to say it -- compromise, because a McCain presidency would differ *severely* from a Clinton or Obama one and *you know it* so once more: don't be hatin'. ;-)
Hey me again (Dammit).
I love you man, but are way off about this. I have to wonder if your definition of conservative is that much different than mine.
I know all about McCain, and I have a good memory. It's not just McCain-Feingold. It's also McCain-Kennedy (amnesty), McCain-Edwards (Democrat health care bill), McCain-Lieberman (global warming economic devastation bill). I shouldn't forget that he also vote against tax cuts (twice!), and organized the Gang of 14 to block conservative judicial nominees. I could go on, but why bother?
He is consistently on the wrong side of issues, battling fiscal and social conservatives along the way. I'm not saying he's better than the 2 socialists, but rather that he's close enough, and I'd rather have a real opposition party in congress that can learn to lead instead of making excuses for McCain. He will not follow my wishes 90% of the time, so I won't vote for him.
P.S. I'm a delegate to the district convention in a couple weeks, with my first goal to nominate a real conservative leader. Since I don't have any options there, I go to plan B which is keep McCain from winning the state. Yes, I am die-hard anti-McCain - you have found your specimen!
I stand by my basic premise, and the points I made above. Also because my number one issue is national security. I could give a rat's ass about the immigration debate right now, I think it's basically degenerated into racism (we don't seem to get angry at Alex Trebek...).
The final case is, look, you're gonna end up with two choices. One is a GUARANTEED MESS for 4-8 years (Dems). Guaranteed. You're afraid of who McCain will appoint and you're *less* afraid of justices HRC or Obama would put in there? The country will suffer if they get their plans through. You and I both know McCain is a better candidate (and person) than anybody running for the Dems; threatening to jump ship and vote HRC or something is just nuts.
Dude, I don't like a lot of the stuff McCain did, and I'm not going to defend it. I'm just on the bandwagon with him because he's the nominee now and when it gets to the general, you'll start to see some major damn differences pop up between the party nominees, if ya can't, you're blind, man.
And is McCain electable? At 71? Oldest guy we would ever put in there. I don't know.
All I'm saying is a vote for McCain is a vote for a vastly-right vision of America -- if we're talking about comparing him to Barack or HRC.
You are skipping ahead to general election comparisons. It's still primary season, and I don't care if McCain has annointed himself. I'll continue to fight, because I think he'd be a bad president, bad for the Republican party and conservatives in the long term, and bad for the nation.
I don't think he's the most electable - in fact he is so uninspiring it's almost like he's been made the sacrificial lamb on purpose.
Immigration is part of the war on islamic nutjobs. Don't forget how the 9/11 hijackers got into our country in the first place. And McCain is not even strong on his supposed "strong point" anyway. He wants to close Guantanamo, give terrorists Geneva Convention rights, and has said he would not torture under any circumstances, even if he knew it would save 1000s of Americans lives. He even defended John Kerry, saying he is not weak on defense. Great... McCain will be tough like John Kerry :(
You can call me a "hater" or whatever, but you reap what you sow, and McCain's record speaks for itself.
This dialog has been fun, but I don't think either of us are going to "convert" the other. Maybe we should talk about football instead? :)
Good. Will you please explain this to every soldier who is withdrawn from Iraq if the Dems win? Will you explain that, right when we were nearing a new level of stability there, we pulled out of Iraq and caused inevitable mass bloodshed? Thank you for your sacrifice, sorry we need you back for the political expediency factor.
McCain hasn't "anointed himself", either -- Christ, follow the delegate count if you're so interested in politics. McCain has a lock on the nomination, period.
The idea that McCain could be considered even remotely as liberal as HRC or Obama is simply pure idiotic drivel spewed by people who pay no attention to facts.
Who will this country be safer under, McCain or Obama/Clinton? Obvious answer. Who is the least likely candidate to expand the federal government even further?
Yes, obviously there's no argument on this, because you're a fool, and you tire me, and you don't address McCain's voting record other than McCain-Feingold and McCain-Kennedy. Two pieces of bad legislation, yes, but beyond that, McCain has a very solid conservative voting record.
And, since, as I said, you're an idiot, I have no interest in discussing football with you. Given your spurious and un-researched opinions on the candidates, I wouldn't be surprised if you expect the Miami Dolphins to be the winners of the next seven Superbowls.
I wish we had had a true conservative to rally around. I do. But we don't, and McCain's our only shot at, say, putting 4-5 justices on the Supreme Court during an 8 year tenure.
If you're going to tell me HRC or Obama would elect the same judges, please pass me the crack pipe you're hitting so hard.
Go vote HRC. I don't give a shit. All truly loyal members of the conservative base, at least the pragmatists (and conservatives are nothing if not rooted in *reality*), are going to end up backing McCain. Not happily, maybe, but they'll throw their support towards him. Gary Bauer just came out for him, as did Jeb Bush. Those are two very good endorsements.
If you want to see fall apart and be grievously hurt by 8 years of a HRC or Obama presidency, more power to you. I'm sure you'll like their appointments to the Supreme Court.
And, frankly, if I have to choose between a Dem president and a constructionist Supreme Court, I'm going with a sane SC every time. The power they wield is awesome, and they are the only branch of government not held in "check" by anybody.
Why don't you explain to me exactly why HRC or Obama are a better choice than John McCain...or wait, do you need to wait until Rush or Hannity come on the radio so you can borrow their opinions?
Sigh. Sorry. Sadass. If you can't see the virtue of electing McCain over either two Dem candidates, I have *nothing* to say to you, football-related or otherwise. Well, I guess I do have something to say, which is, "You're a fucking idiot."
My, you are unpleasant! Please don't call others "stupid" etc. because you disagree with them on certain issues. We probably agree on at least 80% of stuff. I think you are a smart person otherwise I wouldn't be wasting time with you. I also consider myself a smart person, not "a fucking idiot". That's all I've got to say about that.
As for McCain, you can have him. He doesn't need me. He's already said he doesn't need conservatives, and even puffed his chest and threatened to leave the party in 2001. You don't remember that? It was 2 months before 9/11, so everyone conveniently forgets. Not this elephant.
I'll be voting for conservatives this election.
Back on specific topic: you should update McCain's ACU rating for the last 8 years, which is only better than Chafee (who has endorsed Obama, have you heard?) Snowe, Collins, and I think that's it. Yes, his score is around 60. Go McLame.
I'll call others stupid when I feel like it. Like right now. You're stupid, you're an idiot, and that automatically disqualifies you from being a conservative, because conservatives are, by definition, *not* idiots.
My, my, but we are stupid. I don't care who you vote for. Obviously you've been misled to believe I give a rat's ass.
Want to explain to me how Goldwater was a liberal because he supported gay rights? How Reagan was a liberal because he increased taxes, spent like a madman, signed the largest illegal immigrant amnesty bill in history, etc?
Courting your vote is about as attractive to me as watching HRC strip off one of her pantsuits slowly. You're lucky I even bother running your comments.
Oh, well, hurry up, Rush is on soon, he'll tell you what to think, don't worry.
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